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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies from members. Fulton MacGregor joins us online.

The first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 3 in private. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police Investigations and Review Commissioner Annual Report 2023-24

Meeting date: 15 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

The next item of business is to hear from the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner team on its work in the past year and its plans for the future. I am pleased to welcome to the committee Michelle Macleod, the commissioner; Sharon Smit, the accountable officer; and Phil Chapman, the director of operations. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I intend to allow about 60 minutes for the session.

Before we move to questions, I ask the commissioner to make a short opening statement to highlight the main points from the annual report.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We are now joined by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs and her officials. I wish you all a happy new year. Accompanying the cabinet secretary from the Scottish Government, I welcome Lynsey McKean, policy team leader in the police division, and Alasdair Cook, principal medical adviser with the mental health division. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I intend to allow about 75 minutes for this evidence session.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make some opening remarks.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

The submissions from Police Scotland and others have helpfully set out some of the work that has been going on, which is welcome to see.

I bring in Dr Robby Steel.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring the evidence session to a close with a final question, cabinet secretary. It relates to the review of psychiatric emergency plans. I do not think that we touched on it in our previous evidence session, but we are aware from the update that you provided that a review has been going on and that the work was expected to be completed at the end of last year. We hope to see a template and guidance towards the spring of this year.

I highlight a comment that HMICS made in its review into mental health. It outlined that there was “a lack of consistency” in the expectations on the police within different PEPs. It also

“found varying levels of awareness of the PEP among senior officers in local policing divisions.”

Do you have any further comments on the PEP review? Where do you see PEPs fitting into the other work going on at the more strategic level that we discussed?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Please be very quick.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I am really sorry but I must draw this session to a close.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I assume that, within that work, issues to do with the arrangements for remote and rural areas are addressed. Is that correct?

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is good to hear.

As there are no more questions, I bring the evidence session to a close. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for joining us. It has been helpful.

Next Wednesday, we will hear from the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner on her work over the past year.

12:39 Meeting continued in private until 12:49.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing Vulnerable People

Meeting date: 8 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

If you want to provide a follow-up answer in writing, that would be helpful.