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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We will have a brief question from Pauline McNeill, after which we will have to move on to consideration of part 2 of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Grace Boughton, do you have any final points on that issue?

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That brings us up to time. I thank the witnesses very much. I thank Neil Websdale for joining us from Arizona—he can head off to bed now.

I am conscious that it is coming up to 1 o’clock. Are members happy for us to defer agenda item 2, which is consideration of evidence? We will pick that up next week if we are all happy with that proposal.

Members indicated agreement.

Meeting closed at 12:52.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Ben Macpherson has a question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies this morning.

Our first item of business is to continue our stage 1 scrutiny of the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill. We have a good panel of witnesses. I am pleased to welcome Laura Buchan, from the policy and engagement division of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, and Dr Emma Forbes, the national lead for domestic abuse for the Crown Office; Malcolm Graham, the chief executive of the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service; and Superintendent Richard Thomas and Detective Superintendent Adam Brown from Police Scotland. I offer a warm welcome to you all. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s meeting and for your submissions, which have been very helpful.

I intend to allow about 75 minutes for this session. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. To get the session under way, I will start with a pretty broad question that focuses on part 1 of the bill. I propose to bring in Laura Buchan first, followed by Malcolm Graham and Superintendent Richard Thomas.

Part 1 of the bill makes a range of changes to the procedures in criminal courts. In order for the committee to get a sense of your overall views of the proposals, could you briefly outline any provisions in part 1 in relation to which you have any issues or concern? When we started our evidence taking last week, issues came up relating to resourcing and the practical implications of the provisions.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Yes; I might be paraphrasing. However, might the main reason why cases would be transferred be to do with trying to get more throughput and a speedier or more efficient service? Is that the case in the example that Stuart Munro gave of the High Court?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the third meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have no apologies this morning.

Our first item of business is an oral evidence-taking session on an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument. We are joined by the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, Angela Constance, and Scottish Government officials Susan Black, who is a senior policy officer in the civil law and legal systems division, and Emma Thomson, who is a solicitor in the legal directorate. I welcome you all to the meeting.

I refer members to paper 1. I intend to allow up to 15 minutes for this evidence session. I invite the cabinet secretary to make some opening remarks on the instrument.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for joining us. I suspend the meeting for a few minutes to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

09:36 Meeting suspended.  

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you.

I refer members to papers 3 and 4. I intend to allow around 75 minutes for this evidence session. I will start with my usual general opening question. I will come to Stuart Munro first, and then bring in Simon Brown and Paul Smith.

Part 1 of the bill makes changes in relation to procedures in criminal courts. The committee found your submissions very helpful in getting a sense of your organisations’ overall views on the proposals. Will you outline any issues or areas of concern that you have with the provisions in part 1?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 22 January 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That was very clearly set out. I will bring in Kate Wallace. Just as a reminder, my original question was about issues and areas of concern that you might have about the bill.