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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Yes, you can follow it up another time. Apologies for that.

Following on from those questions, Mr Lenehan, you mentioned some contact that you have had with Rape Crisis Scotland, which sounded interesting. The committee would be interested to hear a little more about that as that contact progresses, if that would be possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I am conscious of time, so I would like to bring in Fulton MacGregor, who is linking with us online.

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

We might have lost Mr MacDonald’s sound momentarily. Can you still hear us, Mr MacDonald?

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

In your written submission, you note that a range of

“work packages have been developed and are being progressedâ€

as part of your recovery programme. You set them out, and they include

“Operational Strategy ... Technology ... Communications and Engagement ... Prevention, Protection and Partnerships.â€

Among those packages, are there areas of work that you consider to be priorities? I am thinking about the opportunity for reform and renewal in the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service and the actions that you might look to undertake in quicker time, while others may involve longer-term pieces of work.

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That is an interesting overview.

My final question is a practical one about people’s behaviour, particularly that of vulnerable people, who the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service comes into contact with on probably a regular basis. You have some clear and productive partnership arrangements for how you respond to the vulnerable people your staff encounter.

Obviously, we were in deep lockdown and very much confined to our homes. Did any learning come from that period of lockdown, in particular about how it impacted on people confined in their homes? Are there learning opportunities for the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, in particular to inform your prevention work?

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

My final question for you is also about training. Police Scotland will receive significant mutual aid. I am interested in how the training requirement will be managed, given that COP26 will require personnel from a number of organisations over whose training regime we, in theory, have no control. How can we be sure that the required training will be provided?

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, Mr Greene.

We are having a very comprehensive session, but I am conscious of time. If members and witnesses agree, we will extend the session until about midday in order to let everybody speak. I hope that that will not be inconvenient for the witnesses, but I want to give everyone a reasonable time allocation. I remind members and witnesses to keep their questions and answers as succinct as possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, Ms Wallace. That was helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning and welcome to the third meeting in session 6 of the Criminal Justice Committee. No apologies have been received. Agenda item 1 is to agree to take in private items 3 and 4, which are consideration of our approach to pre-budget scrutiny and consideration of today’s evidence. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Covid (Justice Sector)

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That answer was helpful and reassuring.

My next question is also linked to recruitment, although it relates more to the issue of training. I know that some training in the police service is critical, particularly officer safety training recertification, while there are other parts of training that can be either adapted or deferred. I am just interested in hearing your comments about the impact of the pandemic on your training regime, timetable and requirement, particularly in relation to the 26th United Nations climate change conference of the parties—or COP26—which is coming up in the not-too-distant future. What, if any, challenges are you facing in ensuring that staff and officers are ready to go and that you have the requisite training in place ahead of that event?