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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 13 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for raising that case. I am sorry to hear that account. We cannot, of course, investigate individual cases or issues, but I say on behalf of all members that we take the issue really seriously, hence the work that we have been doing in the past few months. Thank you again for raising the issue.

Criminal Justice Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the 12th meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2023. We have received no apologies.

Our first item of business is to consider the responses that we have received relating to our scrutiny of the Scottish Government鈥檚 budget for 2023-24. I refer members to paper 1. We have had replies from the Scottish Government, Police Scotland and the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service.

Would members like to raise any issues or points? I am happy for you to come in on any of the pieces of correspondence. I will not take them in any particular order.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Russell and others have certainly raised the issue in the past, but more in relation to the follow-up that is in place in the aftermath of an officer or a member of staff taking their own life than to probing the issue.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

There are a couple of things there. You may recall the correspondence that we received from the Lord Advocate back in January. She said that every death by suicide of a police officer or staff member is fully investigated by the Crown as a matter of course. Obviously, issues around a person鈥檚 employment or duties may come into that investigation.

It is also worth noting that we expect to be looking at those issues, when we look at the forthcoming police complaints and misconduct bill, probably in the autumn. That might be the opportunity for us to further probe the issue.

Your points are noted, Mr Greene, and I absolutely agree with them.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Okay, we can look at making that a specific piece of work within the on-going work on mental health and policing.

Criminal Justice Committee

Policing and Mental Health

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

The only other thing that I might add is that HMICS is obviously undertaking a review around policing. The review is more around the response to people in communities who are distressed or unwell, as opposed to police trauma, if you like, but there is an overlap within that work.

Criminal Justice Committee

Access to Court Transcripts

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of correspondence from the Scottish Government on access to court transcripts. I refer members to paper 3.

Do members have any comments on the correspondence?

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Yes.

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Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I call Jackie Dunbar.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We have spent quite a bit of time looking at issues around secure accommodation. I will pick up on the issue of children coming into police custody. I know how difficult it is for custody sergeants and officers, regardless of the time of day, to care for young people and to meet their needs if the custody centre is busy and there are quite a lot of issues and challenges already in play. Is it the case that, regardless of the crime or offence for which they have been admitted, children should not be detained in police stations under any circumstances? Could that be included in the bill? That might have quite significant practical implications for how you make provision for an alternative place of safety. I would be interested in your views on that.