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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 July 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We have spent quite a bit of time looking at issues around secure accommodation. I will pick up on the issue of children coming into police custody. I know how difficult it is for custody sergeants and officers, regardless of the time of day, to care for young people and to meet their needs if the custody centre is busy and there are quite a lot of issues and challenges already in play. Is it the case that, regardless of the crime or offence for which they have been admitted, children should not be detained in police stations under any circumstances? Could that be included in the bill? That might have quite significant practical implications for how you make provision for an alternative place of safety. I would be interested in your views on that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We have a final question from Russell Findlay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Access to Court Transcripts

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Absolutely. I think that we all welcome the fact that the pilot has been proposed. That is very much a step in the right direction.

Criminal Justice Committee

Access to Court Transcripts

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That concludes the public part of the meeting.

11:59 Meeting continued in private until 12:32.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks. That is helpful.

I will bring in other members. Pauline McNeill would like to come in, and then Rona Mackay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Is there scope for factors other than age鈥攕uch as risk, which is topical at the moment, or the nature of the crime鈥攖o be considered in relation to that placement process? I imagine that that already happens to a certain extent.

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 11th meeting in 2023 of the Criminal Justice Committee.

We have received apologies from Collette Stevenson, and I welcome Jackie Dunbar to the meeting as her substitute. We have also received apologies from Jamie Greene.

Our first item of business is a decision on taking in private agenda item 4, which is consideration of evidence that we will hear today. Do we agree to take the item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Katy Clark, and then Fulton MacGregor.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

It might also go back to our earlier discussion on individualised placement and risk assessment. There are some caveats to what you have clearly articulated, given some of the evidence that previous witnesses shared with us on the need to consider the individual鈥檚 maturity and other factors when considering placement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Access to Court Transcripts

Meeting date: 19 April 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That is a good suggestion.

As no one else has any comments, members will note that there is a suggestion in the paper about our follow-up action. I think that we all very much welcome the moves to explore the possibility of a pilot to support access to transcripts for complainers in sexual offences cases.

I want to highlight whether it would be feasible for the delivery of a pilot to be incorporated into the committee鈥檚 stage 1 consideration of the victims, witnesses and justice reform bill, which is due to be introduced shortly. As Rona Mackay has rightly flagged, we can share correspondence appropriately with external organisations.