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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

A lot of the work that Police Scotland does from a preventative angle sees engagement with the likes of alcohol and drug partnerships and other organisations, particularly in the third sector. Can you expand on how important those relationships are in local areas with services that are all working towards the same goal, which is to ensure that there is a preventative approach and, at the same time, rehabilitation?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is good to hear. Talking about joint work鈥攖his is my final question鈥擨 was interested to read the Leverhulme centre鈥檚 submission about the important work that you are doing and, in particular, the data that you have been able to provide that supported the development of multiple national and international policy changes. That is great for the centre and it is good to hear that Scotland is leading the way on that. Bearing in mind the longer-term aspiration of the centre to develop and establish a national drug testing centre, how important is that work? Bearing in mind also what we have been discussing today, how important is it that that provision comes to fruition?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 22nd meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2025. We have no received apologies today. Fulton MacGregor joins us online.

Our first item of business is the continuation of our inquiry into the harm caused by substance misuse in Scottish prisons. Today鈥檚 meeting gives us the opportunity to take evidence from two panels of witnesses with experience of prevention and enforcement in trying to stop illicit substances entering our prisons and being distributed inside them. I am pleased to welcome, from the Prison Officers Association Scotland, Phil Fairlie, the assistant general secretary, and John Cairney, the Scottish national committee chair. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I intend to allow up to 60 minutes for this part of the meeting.

I will begin with a general opening question, putting it to Phil first and then to John. Can you set out some of the impacts on prison officers that are caused by substance misuse in prisons? Those might be impacts on physical or mental health or impacts on other aspects, such as safety. Is there enough support in place to address those impacts, or is more support needed?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I take it that the majority of prison officers have welcomed the option of using naloxone. When it was rolled out in Police Scotland, there was a small amount of concern about the responsibility that its use would bring with it. Have you encountered that concern in the prison service?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That is interesting to hear.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Liam Kerr in a second, but, before I move on, will you tell us a bit about the trends in the new combinations and substances you see coming through?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Before I bring in Fulton MacGregor, I have a question on the back of Rona Mackay鈥檚 questions. We asked the POA about naloxone, which has generally been welcomed as an option that staff can use when a prisoner overdoses. From your perspective on the introduction of naloxone, are you comfortable that staff are receiving enough training, for example, and that it is an effective additional tool for staff to use in countering the impact of the substances that are coming in?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

In addition, Police Scotland has rolled out access to naloxone for officers in performing their operational duties. That is well established.

I will bring in Fulton MacGregor. Do you want to come in, Fulton?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Yes, we can. On you go.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Do you want to come back in, Fulton?