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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am pleased to welcome our second panel of witnesses, who are Stephen McGowan, Deputy Crown Agent, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; and Eric McQueen, chief executive, Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service.

I will begin with the same opening question that I asked our earlier panel. During scrutiny last year, both organisations that are here today painted a concerning picture of the state of your budgets, although that was relieved in part by extra funding. I invite the Crown Office and then the Courts and Tribunals Service to tell us briefly what your experience of the financial situation has been for 2023-24 and what, if any, concerns and commentary you have as we approach the 2024-25 settlement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I bring in John Swinney to ask a quick supplementary.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much indeed.

I am going to use the same format that I used in the previous session and hand over to Russell Findlay, after which I will bring in Katy Clark. I should also say that I am looking at giving members eight or so minutes each, but I will bring in supplementaries if we have time at the end.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

You have time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our final item of business today is to review a supplementary legislative consent memorandum on the UK Government鈥檚 Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill.

The LCM has been lodged because a small number of relatively minor amendments have been made to the bill since we last considered the issue of consent, and they impact on devolved competences. As outlined in the LCM, the new amendments fall within the Scottish Parliament鈥檚 legislative competence, as they relate to the way in which the Independent Commission for Reconciliation and Information Recovery carries out its functions, in so far as they relate to Scotland, with regard to criminal investigations and the review and investigations of deaths or harmful conduct. The amendments therefore require the Scottish Parliament鈥檚 consent.

Before we start, I point out to members that the new amendments do not affect the key parts of the bill that we have looked at and the Scottish Government has not changed its view that the Scottish Parliament should not consent to the relevant parts in this bill for reasons that we have already discussed and, after a vote, agreed with. I should also point out that, because of the timetable in the UK Parliament and our recess, the bill passed into law last night. Therefore, all we need do today is note this development.

If no one has anything else to add, do we agree to note the supplementary LCM?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That concludes our business. Next week, we will be joined by Gill Imery to review the work of the response to deaths in prison custody group, and we will also consider our approach to the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill.

Meeting closed at 12:56.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I also welcome Donald Cameron, who is attending today as Sharon Dowey鈥檚 substitute. As this is his first time with the committee, I invite him to declare any interests that are relevant to the Criminal Justice Committee鈥檚 remit.

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is a decision on taking item 5 in private. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

A very good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2023 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have apologies from Sharon Dowey.

Our first item of business is to welcome John Swinney to his first formal meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee. Sharon Dowey will attend her first meeting next week, because she has a prior commitment in London with the Public Audit Committee. I look forward to working with them both, and I repeat our thanks to Jamie Greene and Collette Stevenson, whom they replace.

I invite John Swinney to declare any interests that are relevant to the committee鈥檚 remit.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks very much, Mr Haggart. I am keen to open questions to members, so if you have anything to add, Mr Thomson or Mr Stevens, I ask that you keep it fairly brief.