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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Agenda item 2 is an evidence-taking session on tackling drug deaths and drug harm. I am pleased to warmly welcome to the meeting our first panel of witnesses. Kirsten Horsburgh is chief executive officer, and Wez Steele is senior training and development officer, at the Scottish Drugs Forum; Simon Rayner is service lead at Aberdeen alcohol and drug partnership; and Tracey McFall is chairperson of the Scottish Recovery Consortium. I refer members to papers 1 and 2 and thank witnesses who have provided written submissions.

We move straight to questions. As ever, I will open with a question just to set the scene and get the discussion under way.

I wonder whether panel members can give us a broad response to the statistics on drug-related deaths, on which there has been a lot of commentary and coverage. The most recent publication of the statistics shows a decline; according to those figures, which have been published by National Records of Scotland, 1,051 people died due to drug misuse in 2022. That is a decrease on the figure for 2021 and the lowest annual total since 2017. However, given that drug death numbers remain stubbornly high, I ask individual witnesses for their response to, and any commentary that they might have on, those recent statistics. Do you feel that we have perhaps started to turn the corner a bit?

I will start with Kirsten Horsburgh and then work across the panel.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Collette Stevenson, did you want to come in with a follow-up?

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Sue Webber has a very quick question.

Criminal Justice Committee, Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, Social Justice and Social Security Committee (Joint Meeting)

Drug Deaths and Drug Harm

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Russell Findlay. I apologise, Russell; I should have brought you in earlier. I know that you are interested in asking some questions around safe consumption rooms.

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We are just about up to time. I will stay with the key recommendation on an additional independent review process. I note in the review report the context around the needs of families, which we have discussed robustly this morning. I noticed in the review that there was reference to the fact that that change—creating another independent process—

“would bring Scotland into line with practice in other jurisdictions including England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.”

I know that it is not just a case of taking a model from somewhere else and slotting it into our policies and processes, but I wonder whether any work was done to look at that practice and whether there was a feeling that there was good learning from that that could realistically form part of a new process in Scotland—bearing in mind what we have discussed about the other option of, potentially, looking at the existing processes and making some changes to them?

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Your question is about the broader issue of implementation of the legislation; we know that there have been challenges in and delays to the timescales. I understand that the minister is aware that we maintain an interest in that and has undertaken to keep the committee informed—specifically about the issues that you have raised, of firework control zones and the licensing scheme. I know that members are very interested in those matters but, for today, I am interested in ensuring that members are content with the response that we have received on the specific points that we raised in connection with football banning orders and the actions of an individual on release from being detained by police after being found to be in possession of a pyrotechnic device.

I am quite keen to maintain that focus, but I absolutely understand the points that Russell Findlay has made, which are, I think, reflected around the room.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I cannot answer that off the top of my head.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Act 2022

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We can look at that. I cannot answer off the top of my head, but I am happy to take that away as an action point.

If there are no further questions, are members content that we give the Government a wee bit of time to come back to us?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Are you referring to paragraph 3 in the paper?

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am happy to go back and stress that we are keen to ensure that that issue is incorporated in the report.