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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I will open up the discussion to members.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Yes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Could I ask you to pause that question? We will come on to that part of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will move on to questions about parts 5 and 6 of the bill. As a reminder, part 5 relates to the establishment of a new sexual offences court and part 6 has three main provisions: first, the automatic statutory right of anonymity for victims of certain offences; secondly, a right to independent legal representation for complainers in sexual offences trials; and, thirdly, to enable a time-limited pilot of single judge trials with no jury for rape and attempted rape cases.

I will pick up on the final provision on single judge trials and the time-limited pilot that is being proposed. In response to Lady Dorrian鈥檚 recommendation, were alternative options to that of a single judge trial pilot considered?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Yes, of course. I am conscious of the time, but that would be fine. I will then bring in Fulton MacGregor, and I have a couple of follow-up questions. We might therefore run on an extra five minutes or so.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Finally, I call Katy Clark.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will finish this set of questions with another question about the position of an accused person, but in relation to the pilot proposal and whether participation in the pilot scheme would be mandatory for an accused person who fell within the scope of the scheme. Might there be a problematic response to that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That brings us neatly to a close. I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for attending what has been an extremely helpful session.

That completes the public part of our meeting. Next week, we will start our first phase of evidence taking on the bill by covering parts 1 and 3 and hearing from organisations representing victims of crime as well as the third sector.

12:00 Meeting continued in private until 12:18.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That is a good point to end on. I will bring in Sharon Dowey and then Rona Mackay

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That was helpful. I have a follow-up question on the aspirations around the experience for individuals who are going through a trial that relates to rape or sexual offences. Would it be possible to achieve what we are aiming to do and improve that experience using a non-legislative option, rather than a legislative one? That might be done by improving trauma-informed training of staff or by expanding the use of evidence by commission so that we can improve and refine what already exists.