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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 January 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that is helpful. We are still working on getting the connection with Katy Clark back, so we will move straight on.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I think that you will all be very relieved to hear me say that that brings our evidence session to a close. I thank the witnesses very much for attending today. It has been an extremely important and helpful session.

Next week, we will return to the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill with evidence from the Lord Advocate on parts 1 to 4 of the bill and evidence from members of the judiciary and academics on the bill’s anonymity provisions.

Are members content to defer agenda item 3, which would have been considered in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will stay with you, Professor Chalmers, before I open up to other members. You referred—I think that I am quoting you correctly—to the challenge of

“unravelling what is going on”,

looking across the wider body of evidence and research work that has been undertaken around rape myths.

In trying to understand the issue, how important is it that we are aware of, and take into account, the purpose of individual pieces of research and the context in which they were developed? I am thinking about avoiding the risk of comparing apples with pears with regard to what happens in one jurisdiction as set against another. How important is it that we are aware of that when we are considering what the evidence is telling us?

09:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am sure that we will come back to that question. I will open up the floor to members, starting with Katy Clark, who is joining us online.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Yes—I will hand over to Professor Thomas.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Katy, would you like to bring in anyone else on that issue?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Professor Munro, can I just come in? There is a lot of interest in this topic, and I know that members are keen to come in, as is Professor Chalmers. Therefore, I will bring in Professor Chalmers, and then we will move on.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I call Pauline McNeill, to be followed by John Swinney.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks very much for that. Professor Munro, I said that I would bring you in next. Would you like to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Professor Munro—there is a lot in there. I will move swiftly on and bring in Professor Chalmers.