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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am sorry, but I have to move things on.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Agenda item 3 should only take a short moment, so I ask members to remain in their seats. I remind all members that this business is not part of our deliberations on transgender prisoners.

Are members content that the amendment regulations should come into force?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Maggie Chapman and then Ash Regan and Rachael Hamilton.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Next week, we will return to the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill, with evidence from survivors of sexual crimes with experience of the criminal justice system, and from victims and survivors organisations. That concludes our meeting.

Meeting closed at 14:18.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am sorry to interrupt. Please keep your response as brief as possible, as I will have to move on after Mr Swinney’s final question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

We will move to questions, and I will begin with a question for Ms Medhurst. The new policy says that transfers from the male estate to the female one will not occur if a prisoner presents

“an unacceptable risk of harm to those in the women’s prison.â€

Will you give a bit more detail on the risk assessment and risk management process in this space? Can you reassure us that the Scottish Prison Service will have access to all the relevant information that it needs from the courts, police, social work and other agencies to inform such a complex risk assessment and management process?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I know that it is a moving figure, but what is the current population of individuals who identify as transgender in the Scottish prison estate?

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am sorry, Ms Regan, but I am going to have to move on. I call Rachael Hamilton. I know that Pauline McNeill would then like to come in for what will have to be our final questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

If I can just come in—

Criminal Justice Committee

Management of Transgender Prisoners

Meeting date: 11 January 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am sorry, but we must move on. I bring in Rona Mackay, to be followed by Pauline McNeill.