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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 June 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, cabinet secretary. That helpfully leads on to my next question. The evidence that we have heard reflects broad support for the proposal to abolish the not proven verdict, but we have been less clear about the extent of support for the proposed jury size change from 15 jurors to 12 and the associated majority required. Concerns have been expressed that that might make it harder to secure convictions. Indeed, the Lord Advocate expressed her concern about the proposal when she gave evidence last week.

Have you reflected on the concerns that have been raised? If so, what is your view on what we have heard? How might you respond to those concerns?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Probably both.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that. A number of members want to come in. I will bring in Sharon Dowey and then Fulton MacGregor.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Mr Brown is here to answer questions on the SSBA’s views on the pilot for juryless trials. I intend to allow up to 50 minutes for that, which will be our main focus today.

I have a couple of questions about the proposal to pilot juryless trials. Please outline your main reasons for opposing the provisions in the bill that would lead to a pilot of rape trials without juries. When I say “you”, I am referring to the association and to its position.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will have to move on and come back to you, Mr Swinney, if we have time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Sharon Dowey.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I will bring in members now.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I have a question about the jury manual. In your evidence, you refer to the fact that juries are now specifically directed regarding rape myths. It is our understanding that a specific additional provision was inserted into the jury manual last year.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Are you aware whether any work has been done to look at or evaluate the impact of having that additional guidance in the manual?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 6 February 2024

Audrey Nicoll

A number of members want to come back in with supplementary questions, so we might have to work on for another five minutes or so, if that fits for you, Mr Brown.

I have a practical question. How many members does the association have at the moment?