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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

I had a briefing last week from Linda Thompson from the Women’s Support Project. She does a snapshot every year and she gave me a preview of last year’s snapshot, which looked at about 100 women across Scotland. It goes into the complex areas of poverty, drug addiction and mental health issues. It is a very good report, and I think that the committee would benefit from seeing it.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

Based on our conversations with Police Scotland and the work that it is doing at the moment, I think that the police are not targeting the women; they are targeting the men.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

I think that I have touched on that. I have concerns that they are not realistic. We need to have more detail, especially with regard to the support aspect of the bill. I do not know how much that would cost; I think that the suggestion is that the money would come from the funds for the equally safe strategy, which have already been allocated. The member must supply more detail if we are to work out how much the bill will cost. We want legislation to be affordable and workable.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

We need to consider the existing policies and legislation in the area of tackling exploitation, and the issue that you raise is one that has been highlighted in that regard. Sex for rent—indeed, any exchange of sex for accommodation—is exploitation. Local authorities have powers relating to housing and engagement with sexual exploitation, but these issues need more consideration and consultation. I know that officials are working with Police Scotland and the short-term accommodation sector on ways of raising awareness of sexual exploitation—I think that everyone is familiar with that work, which I know will continue into next year. Jeff Gibbons can elaborate on what is being done in that regard.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

I cannot commit to it being done in the next parliamentary session—that would be up to the new Government. However, as I have said, we have never ruled out legislation. It is just about how we get it right. It might be quite traumatic for some of the women, whether they are for or against such legislation, to bravely give their evidence, but we need their voice at the table if we move forward with it, given all the complex issues, including how to deal with past convictions. That does not necessarily mean that they would have to give evidence in front of the public, on television and in front of committees—it could be in private sessions. I would want their voice at the table, because I want to hear from people with lived experience on how we can move forward with the best legislation. I hope that the process would not be as traumatic as having to give evidence to committees.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

We had a few meetings in the initial stages with Ms Regan, in which I raised quashing and the detail about support that I raised with you. Ms Regan thought it was up to the Scottish Government to provide that detail, but it is not; it is a member’s bill, so it is up to the member to provide the detail and for everyone to scrutinise it. As I said, if I proposed a Scottish Government bill, I would expect scrutiny, and people would be asking me questions on detail. We have gone forward with the evidence sessions, but I have not had any requests for a meeting recently.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

I appreciate the different numbers of sections in the different bills. When I said that I had concerns about it, I was alluding to the fact that, when we have evidence sessions, it is up to the Government or to private members to come back and say how they will address that evidence. A lot of issues have been raised during the evidence sessions.

I do not agree that the Scottish Government will just put legislation through. We take our time and listen to members. I hope that the member in charge will do that as well with her private member’s bill.

I have genuine concerns about the parliamentary timetable. We are all aware of the number of members’ bills and Scottish Government bills that we are currently try to put through in the next 16 weeks—you said it was 18 weeks, but I counted 16.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

Is it acceptable? We are doing everything that we can.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

To me, the conclusions are unclear that it is not working internationally.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Siobhian Brown

Yes—I am saying that the international examples, which the committee has heard about in evidence, show that that approach is not 100 per cent working and there are challenges with the implementation of such legislation internationally.