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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

There have, of course, been difficulties with the national care service, but I cannot speak about them today, because responsibility for that bill does not sit with me.

I appreciate what Mr Briggs has said about the delays, but I hope that we have assured him that action is being taken at pace to establish the national social work agency, and I have spoken about some of the other areas of work. However, I agree that difficulties with the national care service will impact the Promise. There were compelling reasons why reform of children鈥檚 services should have been considered alongside wider social care reform. That would have helped us to take a multi-agency approach, join up services and ensure that services talk to one another. I agree that the issues with the national care service bill have had an impact in a number of areas, but we are taking action at pace to remedy those and implement changes as quickly as possible.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Mr Briggs, you said that the work on social work is just starting, but that is not the case. The creation of a national social work agency is one very important aspect of our work in supporting the workforce, but Iona Colvin and I have alluded to work in a number of other areas that is not just starting but has been worked through and progressed over a number of years.

I appreciate that there have been delays relating to the national care service. Difficulties were raised from members across the Parliament as we have sought to get the bill over the line. However, I can speak only about the work that we are progressing to make the changes that are needed to support the workforce.

Iona, do you have anything to add on timescales?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

The detailed information will be available this afternoon, when I give my statement. I can assure Mr Rennie that every appropriate action has been taken to support secure accommodation providers that are facing capacity issues. There have been issues with St Mary鈥檚 Kenmure, but those have now been dealt with. I visited St Mary鈥檚 a couple of weeks ago to see the improvements and to understand what has taken place. We are looking at other ways to increase capacity and are working with COSLA. I will be more than happy to provide more detail on that in my statement this afternoon.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I am sorry that that has not happened, but the capacity issue is not a result of the legislative change resulting from the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Act 2024. There have been various issues. I did not know about the issue at St Mary鈥檚 at that time. There has been an increase in the complexity of cases and the support that is required, which sometimes means that not all beds can be utilised because a child might require more than one bed or more than one space. Discussions on cross-border placements are on-going, and there are also a number of unaccompanied children who are asylum seekers. A number of issues are related to the problem.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

Gavin, would you like to come in?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

In fact, I can give the member the information that she is looking for. I last discussed the issue of attendance on the record with the cabinet secretary last Thursday during a portfolio call.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

In relation to the outcomes? Absolutely. The Minister for Further and Higher Education was involved in that call, too.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I was presented with a number of options on that specific ask. Personally, I think that some form of remuneration will be required to ensure the robustness of the system, and I am considering that for the forthcoming bill.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I do not know if Gavin Henderson has any detail on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

The Promise

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Natalie Don-Innes

I can give you that detail when the details of the bill are produced, but I cannot go into that level of detail at the moment, while those things are still being considered and certain aspects are still being worked out with law officers, going through the regular process. I would have to update you on that at a later date.