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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Thanks, Micheleine. I am sorry to have to interrupt you but we are running short of time, so I have to ask for succinct answers. I believe that Foysol Choudhury asked another question but, before I move on to that, Alison Gillies wants to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Sorry, Micheleine, could you wrap up? Carry on—I know that you are in the middle of that point—but I ask you to wrap up quickly.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

I apologise that we did not follow up on a couple of points from my colleague Pam Duncan-Glancy’s questions regarding involvement in the national allowance discussions and which agency got the contract. If the witnesses could follow up in writing on those points, that would be great.

I apologise that we have run short on time. It has been a really interesting and informative session. I thank all our witnesses very much. I know that the issue is extremely emotive and important, so they should be assured that their responses and testimonies will help to inform our work on the matter.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. At next week’s meeting, we will take evidence from a range of organisations that support women and girls who have experienced violence and we will consider where the focus for the prevention of violence should be.

We now move into private to consider our remaining agenda items. Members who online should leave this meeting and join via the link in their calendars.

11:25 Meeting continued in private until 11:38.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Would you like to direct that to a particular member of the panel?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Thank you, Linda. Foysol, do you have any further questions?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Kinship Care

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

We move on to our final theme, on which Miles Briggs has questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

I am sorry—I know that there was a lot in that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

Thank you. That leads me to my next question, which is on the cost of the school day. We have discussed the huge challenges for those on low incomes and the barriers that our young people face in relation to the costs of the school day. In its written submission, CPAG welcomes the Scottish Government’s commitment to policies on

“digital inclusion, curriculum cost removal”

and

“trips and activities”.

The local examples that were provided in the submission were also very helpful.

However, with the cost of living soaring, I feel that the barriers will only be strengthened. Will Sara Spencer expand on the areas relating to the cost of the school day that she believes should be a priority? We talked a bit about stigma earlier, but that was more about stigma for parents. I am interested in policies being carried out in a way that focuses on reducing stigma for children, too. Could you elaborate on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

I thank everyone on the panel for their comments, which have been very helpful.

I want to ask about wraparound care, which Stephanie Callaghan touched on, and the work that is done with different organisations. We know that poverty—lack of money—is at the heart of the poverty-related attainment gap. Families’ benefits have been cut this year, and the cost of living is rising; food and fuel prices are going through the roof. I am worried about the impact that that will have on children.

11:15  

Children cannot thrive in a difficult home environment. Although we say that the issue is poverty, other issues can stem from poverty. The following problems are not restricted to families on low incomes, but living in poverty can lead to drug and alcohol abuse, mental health issues, domestic abuse and other problems at home. Children cannot concentrate when all of that is going on. Families need support.

Jim Wallace touched on this matter, but I would like witnesses to expand on it by telling us how they ensure that the work of their organisation is aligned with other services, such as social work and health. Do witnesses think that that could go further, into debt agencies and women’s or addiction services?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Attainment Challenge Inquiry

Meeting date: 23 February 2022

Natalie Don-Innes

That is really helpful. The idea of stigma is important. You mention free school meals. The way that things are done in practice in schools matters. I remember that, when I was at school, you got a free school meal by standing in a separate queue and getting a dinner ticket, and you were in a small group of people who got one. It is nice to know that things like that have been phased out. It is important that we continue to work with young people, as you have said, to discuss how we can ensure that stigma is reduced.

I am conscious of the time. I can leave it there if other panel members want to come in.