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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you—that is helpful.

I have one quick question. For the benefit of potential service users who are watching today, can the minister please outline how we can guarantee that VoiceAbility will be independent and that it will be willing and able to criticise Social Security Scotland and the Scottish Government if necessary?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

There will be a division.

For

Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con)
Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con)
Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab)
Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab)

Against

Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP)
McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP)
Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP)
Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP)

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

The vote is tied. I will use my casting vote. Again, based on what the minister and colleagues have said, I use my casting vote to oppose amendment 6.

Amendment 6 disagreed to.

Section 2—Power to increase amount of carer’s allowance supplement

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Amendment 8, in the name of Maggie Chapman, has already been debated with amendment 4. I call Maggie Chapman to move or not move.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Although Maggie Chapman has chosen not to move amendment 8, there was a debate on it. Does any other colleague wish to move amendment 8? The answer appears to be no.

Amendment 8 not moved.

Amendment 9 not moved.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

I invite Ms Duncan-Glancy to work with the clerks to frame the questions that she seeks answers to.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you, minister. I appreciate your brevity.

10:45  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you, colleagues. That ends our stage 2 consideration of the bill. The deadline for stage 3 amendments is 12 noon on Monday 4 October, and we expect to consider stage 3 on Thursday 7 October.

I thank the minister, non-committee members and the minister’s officials for joining us this morning, and I briefly suspend the meeting before moving on to the next agenda item.

10:46 Meeting suspended.  

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

Agenda item 5 is consideration of two Scottish statutory instruments under the negative procedure.

It might be helpful if I first clarify some procedural points. SSIs that are laid under the negative procedure come into force automatically unless the Parliament passes a motion to annul them or they are withdrawn by the Scottish Government. There is no procedure for amending such SSIs, and it is not possible for us to accept some parts of them but not others. The only way in which a committee member can prevent a negative SSI from coming into force is by lodging a motion to annul the instrument. That said, the committee can make recommendations for future changes to be brought forward through other instruments, or it can highlight any concerns that it might have to the Scottish Government.

The first set of regulations would allow large payments of arrears of devolved disability benefits to be paid in instalments to Scottish clients if consent is given by the clients. Further background information is outlined in paper 4.

If members have no comments, are we content simply to note the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Carer’s Allowance Supplement (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 30 September 2021

Neil Gray

The question is, that amendment 5 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.