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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

You are first up on the next theme, which is moving between DLA and PIP and ADP.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Not at all.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

The next item is on the adult disability payment, which is due to start replacing personal independence payment in Scotland next year. Changes will be made through regulations that the committee expects to be laid soon. This morning, we will consider the differences between ADP and PIP and any potential policy issues in advance of formal consideration of the regulations next year.

I am pleased that we will hear from two panels today. I welcome to the first panel Ed Pybus, policy and parliamentary officer, Child Poverty Action Group in Scotland; Richard Gass, welfare rights and money advice manager, Rights Advice Scotland; and Judith Paterson, who is a member of the Scottish Commission on Social Security. A very warm welcome to you all.

I ask committee members and panellists to type R in the chat box if they would like to come in. Some members have already indicated to me that they would like to do so. I would also appreciate it, given that we are meeting virtually today, if colleagues who are asking questions could direct their questions to witnesses directly and allow a wee bit of time to ensure that their microphones are turned on before speaking.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

While you are on that point and before I bring in Jeremy Balfour, I note that the SCOSS report said:

“We are persuaded that changing eligibility criteria at this time would risk undermining the delivery of ADP, with extremely detrimental consequences for people who depend on it.â€

What detrimental consequences did you envisage? What made you reach that conclusion?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Keith, are you looking to come back in briefly?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Neil Gray

Item 2 is on third sector recovery. Third sector organisations have been rightly recognised and celebrated for their innovative and fast response to the challenges posed by Covid-19. However, the pandemic has also inflicted real damage, and today the committee will look at the longer-term resilience of the sector and the challenges that it faces. We will hear from two panels of witnesses today.

I welcome the first panel: Paul Bradley, policy and public affairs manager, Scottish Council for Voluntary Organisations; Martin Tyson, head of regulation and improvement, Office of the Scottish Charity Regulator; Kaja Czuchnicka, senior development officer, TSI Scotland Network; and Duncan Thorp, policy and public affairs manager, Social Enterprise Scotland.

I will invite colleagues around the table to ask a series of questions. First up is Pam Duncan-Glancy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Neil Gray

Paul Bradley wants to come in briefly.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Neil Gray

Glenn Liddall wants to come in here, too.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Neil Gray

Evelyn Tweed will ask the final set of questions in this panel.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Third Sector Recovery

Meeting date: 9 December 2021

Neil Gray

Welcome back. We are grateful to colleagues who have joined us on the second panel. We have Ian Bruce, the chief executive of Glasgow Council for the Voluntary Sector; Eoin MacNeil, the chief officer of Voluntary Action Barra & Vatersay and partner in Third Sector Interface Western Isles; Glenn Liddall, the chief executive of People Know How; Suzie Burt, a trustee of Letham4All; and Myles Fitt, the strategic lead on financial health at Citizens Advice Scotland.

The first question is from Pam Duncan-Glancy. I again remind colleagues to direct their questions to named witnesses.