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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 August 2025
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I recognise that some might have raised that as a concern, but I hope that I have set out the steps that we are taking to try to address its being a concern. I would highlight the draft strategy on palliative care that is being consulted on and which seeks to improve the position in that respect, and the steps that we are taking in the budget to fund our health boards and our hospices to maintain or expand provision.

It is important to stress, too, that there is a belief, wrongly held by some, that palliative care is only for those with a short time left to live. Such care can鈥攁nd, in many cases, should鈥攂e offered from the time that a person is diagnosed with a serious or life-threatening condition, because it can help them to get the right support in place, manage their symptoms better and allow them to think through the best treatment options, taking into account what really matters to them. That is the person-led approach that we want to see, and it can be offered alongside other treatments that aim to prolong their life.

Such care has to be bespoke and person led to ensure that we are addressing the needs of people as they see them. It is not just for those at the end of life. I hope that that provides additional clarity for the committee in considering whether that should be a factor in decision making.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Yes. Should the bill pass stage 1, extensive discussions would need to be had with a number of stakeholders, and I would have a responsibility as health secretary to ensure that I was taking matters forward in the interests of health and social care services and the people who interact with them. I think that everyone would expect me to have conversations such as those that Mr Gulhane set out.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Again, I understand that being a query and an area of interrogation for the committee, but the Government has not taken a position on that as yet.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I note that those questions were considered by the previous panel, particularly in relation to prosecution policy and investigations. We have considered Mr McArthur鈥檚 equality impact assessment. Depending on the consideration that the committee gives to those questions, further work may be required post stage 1. However, at this stage, I will rest there.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

Good morning, colleagues, and thank you very much for your invitation to give evidence to the committee on what is, as I am sure that you have found throughout your evidence gathering, a very sensitive and emotive topic.

As I outlined in my memorandum to the committee in September, the Government is taking a neutral position on Liam McArthur鈥檚 bill at this stage, and it is for the Parliament to decide whether it supports the general principles behind the bill. Given that, I am not in a position to comment on assisted dying in principle or on the individual provisions in the bill, beyond what I have already outlined in the memorandum.

It is important that I, as lead minister on the bill, and the Government, remain neutral while the Parliament carries out its scrutiny. However, my officials and I have been closely following the evidence that the committee has gathered over the past few months. The work that you have been doing and the evidence of stakeholders will play an important role in supporting our decision making on any amendments that we might wish to lodge, should it pass stage 1. I also look forward to reading the committee鈥檚 stage 1 report when it is published.

This is a hugely complex, emotive and contentious topic, and it remains my hope that, regardless of our personal views, we as 成人快手 will be able to work together across parties to ensure that the debate continues to be handled with the sensitivity that it requires and deserves. I am grateful to the committee for the respectful way in which it has handled its scrutiny thus far, and I thank you again for inviting me to give evidence on this important issue.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I am happy to bring Ms Crossan in to give further detail. A lot would be dependent on the service model that is put forward. I know that the British Medical Association has raised questions about the model and how it will be established. The point that you raise is correct.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

That would be a financial undertaking and we would need to consider that, should an amendment of that nature be made. It would be for others to determine whether such an amendment would be within the scope of the bill. I recognise the work of the likes of Miles Briggs, and we are considering how to ensure that palliative care support is as extensive and equitable as possible as part of our strategy. The work that we are doing in that vein, as well as supporting our hospice sector and our health and social care services, aims to ensure the availability of palliative care at the point of need.

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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I have seen some of the evidence from the likes of the BMA and some palliative care professionals in relation to that point. I understand the perspectives that have been put across. It will be for the committee to report on and for the Parliament to consider. Thereafter, the Government will take a firmer position on those topics.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I know that the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee, which is the regulatory committee, has considered that point. I cannot comment on it beyond what I have set out in the Government鈥檚 memorandum. I hope that Ms Mochan will understand.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Neil Gray

I thank Mr Sweeney for his question and understand his reasons behind it. We have set out our position on legislative competence in our memorandum. I recognise that Mr McArthur has sought to propose options. Should the bill pass stage 1, we would look at what options might work. At this stage, there is nothing further for me to add.