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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 23 December 2021

Neil Gray

Before I bring in Jeremy Balfour, who will cover the points that you raised about cost pressures, the fiscal framework and the costs of the adult disability payment, which is the real driver behind the increased cost of social security to the Scottish Government, I want to take you back briefly to Pam Duncan-Glancy’s question about employment. What is your expectation for how much of an impact the omicron variant will have on employment levels and, therefore, social security levels in the coming months? Do you have any update on that from your previous forecasts?

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I am conscious that we have representatives of two UK-wide organisations present. Keith Park and Trisha Hatt, do you have any view on whether the UK Government has any intention to review the 20m rule, which Marie McNair asked about? Clearly, that would answer some of the problems and concerns that have been raised about passporting and the move of people who are currently on DLA to ADP.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

It would be helpful if any colleague who wishes to come in types R in the chat function. We would then have an indication of who wishes to respond to that point.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

That is very helpful. Before we wrap up I want to ask a couple of final questions. The first touches on the theme that Evelyn Tweed just raised, about passporting and the interchangeability of the devolved and reserved systems. I note that SCOSS has highlighted its concern about the UK Government’s green paper on health and disability and that it could have “significant implications” for the devolved system. Judith Paterson, could you please elaborate your concerns about the green paper and the white paper that is potentially coming early next year?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I can see that Craig Smith is looking to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Is that addressed to any panel member in particular?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I will bring in Bill Scott followed by Craig Smith. I am conscious that we have not heard from Trisha Hatt yet. If Trisha has anything to add, I will be happy to bring her in after that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I am very conscious of time. We have about half an hour left and quite a few colleagues to get through, so I ask that we be quick with questions and answers. It would be helpful if the witnesses could come in when they have something new to add, rather than reiterating points that have already been made.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I have one final very brief question, which is predominantly to Keith Park. Do you believe that issues of eligibility, such as the 20m rule, will require reassessment on transfer? Could you give a reason for your thoughts on that, please?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

That is extremely helpful.