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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

Good morning, and welcome to the second meeting in 2022 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take item 4 in private. Do members agree to do so? I am just looking around my virtual room to make sure that all colleagues agree.

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

I would now like to bring in Jeremy Balfour, who I believe has a follow-up to a previous question.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

I invite the committee to agree that the clerks and I will produce a short, factual report of the committee鈥檚 decisions and arrange to have it published. Are colleagues content with that approach?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

Thank you very much to the minister and to Niall Wilson and Kirsten Simonnet-Lefevre for coming along this morning. Your evidence has been very helpful to us and we greatly appreciate your time, as always. I hope that you all have a lovely day.

That concludes the public part of this morning鈥檚 meeting. At our next meeting on 27 January, as the minister has already alluded to, we will be welcoming him back for consideration of the adult disability payment regulations. I now suspend the meeting and move to private session. Members should follow the link to the private session, which should be in their calendars.

09:51 Meeting continued in private until 10:00.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

I want to double check that there are no further questions from colleagues.

I wanted to seek some further clarity on the right to advocacy. SCOSS had said in its evidence that it believed that there was not a right. However, I take what has been said by Kirsten Simonnet-Lefevre in answer to previous questions. Perhaps this is something to follow up in writing in order to get absolute clarity, but my reading of what has been said is that, if there is a question or dubiety over entitlement, somebody has a right to advocacy. Could that be confirmed, please?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

That would be helpful, in particular on the point around compensation or whatever arrangements might be in place for medical professionals providing supporting information for people鈥檚 claims. That was a point of interest when we met Social Security Scotland and it was the thrust of Mr Briggs鈥檚 question, so that would be incredibly helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

I believe that that covers Natalie Don鈥檚 questions. I will bring in Pam Duncan-Glancy next.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

Before I bring in Emma Roddick, are there any further questions from you, Mr Balfour?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

That would be very helpful. I think that the points the minister and you have just made there have provided clarity, but anything that you can follow up in writing with about the points and junctures would be most helpful. Thank you for that.

I believe that that takes us to the conclusion of our questions. Unless anybody else is looking to come in at this stage, we will move to item 3, which is the formal debate on the motion. I remind the committee that only members and the minister may take part in the formal debate. I invite the minister to move motion S6M-02786.

Motion moved,

That the Social Justice and Social Security Committee recommends that the Scottish Child Payment Regulations 2020 and the Disability Assistance for Children and Young People (Scotland) Regulations 2021 (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2022 [draft] be approved.鈥擺Ben Macpherson]

Motion agreed to.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 20 January 2022

Neil Gray

Thank you very much for that helpful introduction. We now move to questions from colleagues.