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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

We want to continue to encourage better community benefit and community shared ownership models, and that is where community wealth building policies come into play. On the area that we have just discussed, you can really see demonstrable benefit to local communities from particular infrastructure being put in place. We will all have examples of communities that are neighbouring areas where renewable or other energy projects are taking place aiming to get discernible benefits from those projects.

I will happily bring in Ragne Low at this stage, as she has been closer to the issue over a longer period.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

To be fair, I have set out my position and that of the Government quite clearly, and I will rest at the response that I gave earlier.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

We would do exactly what I have just said. We would look to have a much smoother and more balanced consenting regime to ensure that we have, interacting with NPF4, a strategic look at where we are going to need that infrastructure. We need to prioritise that infrastructure while also, obviously, taking communities with us. That is the balance that needs to be struck.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

Probably not, deputy convener. You are probably right in your assessment that communities are possibly not aware of the full infrastructure requirements that there will be.

There are a couple of points here. First, we need to understand that undergrounding is, in itself, not necessarily the full answer. To underground high-voltage cabling requires a significant amount of concrete over a long period of time and over a long distance, which has a huge environmental impact of its own. It is also really important that we come forward with a clearer sense of what we are looking to do, for instance with the likes of hydrogen, and how we can utilise energy in the locality rather than transmitting it all.

Taking communities with us is obviously going to be really important, and understanding the scale of the infrastructure will be part of that process. I am more than happy to take that away and look at how we can do more to provide that information.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

Yes, I think that we need to have those discussions. We also need to see greater consistency in where the community benefit money goes. In some areas, it goes to community development trusts; in other areas, it goes direct to local authorities to be distributed. I would like there to be greater consistency in where those payments are distributed. I also want the benefit that a local community derives from a neighbouring project to be more demonstrable. I say that as both a Government minister and a MSP who has quite a substantial onshore wind footprint around my constituency.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

No, absolutely. I invite Ragne Low to comment.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

There absolutely need to be speedier decisions. That is the point that I was making about having a smoother process to give better certainty to those who are looking to come forward with the applications that we are talking about.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

Yes.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

Absolutely.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Neil Gray

Absolutely, I think that they will have a central role. To go back to Nova Innovation, it is looking at the potential for innovation in the technology of floating solar, which it sees as potentially providing a landmark breakthrough moment for Scotland鈥檚 generation capacity. Ms Regan rightly speaks of the potential complementarity, but there are also other markets where the technology can be exported鈥攖he company is looking particularly at the Middle East. There are huge opportunities. Those technologies absolutely will be part of our energy mix. As somebody who hails from Orkney, where some of the technologies are being tested, it is exciting to see them coming through so strongly.