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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

That is a sobering statistic if ever there was one for us to hear. John Dickie and Chris Birt, do you have anything to add on the impact of not extending the uplift to legacy benefits?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you. We will move to the next theme, which is human rights and poverty proofing .

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you. We lost you just at the end there, but I think that you were saying that it is easier to access the Scottish child payment. Bill Scott will have the final word.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you very much. As the three of you have done for the past hour and 40 minutes, you have given us much to chew over with that last point. I thank John Dickie from the Child Poverty Action Group, Chris Birt from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation and Bill Scott from the Poverty an Inequality Commission for your time. It is greatly appreciated and we will no doubt speak to you again soon.

I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:40 Meeting suspended.  

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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

I am keen to move on to talk about other policy drivers that can help address poverty.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you. We have covered quite a bit of ground on some of the themes that we are looking to explore later in the meeting. I will bring in Emma Roddick to discuss the Scottish child payment.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Does Chris Birt have anything to add on those two areas?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Your point about the UK Government having more social security powers is interesting. If we had the time, I would have loved to have had a discussion about Governments’ ability to deliver demand-led social security without sufficient borrowing powers, but time is against us.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Before I ask Pam Duncan-Glancy whether she has any supplementaries, I can see that Bill Scott has something to add about housing costs as a driver of poverty.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Social Security (Up-rating of Benefits) Bill

Meeting date: 16 September 2021

Neil Gray

Thank you very much. I am looking around the room to get an indication of whether members have questions.

Your statement throws open areas of concern that we have about the interaction and relationship between UK Government and Scottish Government, and underlines why we are so keen to have the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions come before us, at a time of her choosing, to discuss those areas and to ensure that the two Governments are working and communicating well together in order to ensure the best delivery of social security.