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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I will bring in Andrew Burns and Carol Calder for an Accounts Commission and Audit Scotland view on the reasons for the disparity. What has gone on in the past and, without moving on to the national care service, what lessons do we need to learn from that? The question is about learning from the past and how we can move forward.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Carol Calder, do you want to touch on that point? Then I will see whether anyone else wants to come in. Eddie Fraser mentioned IJBs, so I will move on to IJBs in a wee second.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Those are good points. Thank you.

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning to the panel. I am coming to this having had 15 years of experience as a councillor and a council leader. The Deputy First Minister asserted that there are significant variations in performance among local authorities. How do witnesses account for that disparity in performance, and how do they suggest that the Scottish Government and COSLA address that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I want to move on. I will come to Eddie Fraser first. You mentioned that IJBs were brought in. My question is about the impact on local democracy and democratic accountability through the IJBs. As you know, not every councillor sits on an IJB; a limited number sit on them. Do councillors who do not sit on them have influence? How has democratic accountability worked over the five or six years since IJBs have been brought in, and what is their role? You touched on that in your answer to the first question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in on that one?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

We touched before on the understanding that children’s services will be transferred to the new care service. I have two questions at once. The previous panel also mentioned the reluctance of councils to invest in new and existing assets if that were to happen, which would not only affect children’s services but have a broader impact. My first question is on children’s services, my second on the impact on councils’ ability or appetite to invest. Eddie Fraser, you touched on that in the previous panel.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I will follow on from that point. To what extent does the bill adequately reflect the role of housing and homelessness services in improving the quality and consistency of social services, thereby leading to improved outcomes? You have touched on that. I do not know whether you want to say anything else, but your point led really well into the question that I wanted to ask.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 8 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in on that? I will try to move on to IJBs.