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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. What has been said leads on quite neatly to my questions on capital expenditure. We know that block grant funding from the UK Government is the largest component of the Scottish Government鈥檚 capital funding. The commission鈥檚 projections suggest that that funding will, in nominal terms, be cut by 14 per cent between 2023-24 and 2028-29. How will that cut affect the productive capacity of the Scottish economy?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good. Thank you.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Okay, thank you.

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

I have a last wee question just to finish off. It strikes me that, because of the limitations instilled by a fixed budget, the narrative is continually about revenue spend, for very good reason鈥攐f course that needs to be scrutinised and monitored鈥攚ithout there necessarily being the same kind of awareness in the body politic of the implications of capital expenditure in investment terms. Is that something that, as economists, you see happening almost as an inevitable consequence? I can see that you are nodding.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

I will explore that a bit more. Could you all, as top-notch economists, say how productive capacity can be affected by low levels of capital expenditure? For example, you have talked about AI, research and development, productivity, economic growth and sustainable wellbeing or otherwise. It would be useful to get that on the record.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

I meant with regard to changing something at significant scale鈥攕uch as, for context, the 14 territorial boards and the five national boards鈥攁nd restructuring it. I mentioned the Centre for Sustainable Delivery. I am talking about that scale of change and organisational restructuring. Is that something that you would expect to see mandated by the Government rather than being fed upwards from you or people who you face off with in other boards?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

To follow on from that, you have indicated that the Scottish Government may receive further funding from sources other than the block grant. What are those sources? What do you see as the key risks for their not materialising? In other words, I am trying to flesh out the extent to which those sources can be relied on relative to the block grant, which we know has been significantly cut.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. Last week, we had interesting evidence from Police Scotland in which it was made clear that that body simply would not have been created had it not been mandated by Government. I want to ask you some perception questions about your world. In Scotland, with 5.5 million people, we have 14 territorial boards and five national boards, and there is duplication of human resources directors, information technology directors and finance directors. Have you and your equivalents had discussions about attempting to change the scale and the current organisational structure? I know that the British Medical Association has released a report on that, but have you looked at the issue or suggested some change with your face-off equivalents in other boards?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Service Reform Programme

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

My next question follows on from that. Local boards might employ individual staff under different terms and conditions. Does that inhibit flexibility when trying to move staff around? Is there not the same ease of transition because they are employed by different boards? Do you experience that when trying to attract people into your area?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Economic and Fiscal Forecasts and Medium-term Financial Strategy

Meeting date: 6 June 2023

Michelle Thomson

You have prompted my next question. Off the top of your head, do you have any figures to show how capital investment in the UK over, say, the past 10 years compares with that in other states?