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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

I want to follow up a point that Steve Aitken made. Ethics has been a golden thread running through the three evidence sessions we have had. We have heard the need for that emphasised by a variety of witnesses. If we forecast forward, AI is potentially a significant disrupter to our society. For many people, having more leisure time is a curse as well as an opportunity. On your point, therefore, about ethics, does it mean that from a skills perspective that we should be teaching ethics in schools because humanity—and I appreciate that this is quite a big question—will have to encounter this existential crisis, arguably triggered by significant momentum in AI? In this committee we are not going to solve any of that, but should we be thinking practically about teaching more ethics in schools to counter some of this?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

We could unpick so much in that; that is our challenge with such a short, sharp and focused series of sessions.

I would like to get reflections from both of you on another point. About 10 years ago, when I was in Westminster, we talked about AI in a session with a professor from the University of Cambridge. At that point, it seemed unbelievable how many base functions of lawyers and accountants were going to be taken over, although we know that to be true now.

When I asked that professor what skill set was going to inherit the earth, his answer was that the creatives will keep on creating no matter what, and they will harness the power of AI to endlessly create—and that will be the merging point. That has always stuck with me, and I would appreciate hearing your reflections on it. Do you believe that that is true? What does it mean for how we fundamentally shape the provisioning of everything, from a governance perspective?

I will first come back to Dex Hunter-Torricke and finish with Kayla-Megan Burns, and that will be me done, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 19 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you. I put the same question to Kayla-Megan Burns.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

Somewhere in the multitude of evidence that we have received, the Scottish Government said, “We have to do this,” and claimed that no other solutions were offered. However, we had commentary from Homes for Scotland last week that it had not been asked to come up with any other solutions, so it felt slightly irked to hear that no other solutions were proffered when it had not been asked. I take it that it is too late in the day to ask for any other solutions and that you are completely wedded to this.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

We did have that conversation. Fionna Kell from Homes for Scotland made the point that the new build market size has been overstated by about £1.4 billion. She also commented that we are using estimates of estimates because we are following what is happening down south. That concern played into what was alluded to earlier, which is not just a lack of financial modelling but behavioural modelling, which I think the convener was alluding to when he mentioned the Laffer curve. Do you want to put some meat in the bones of that to start to model it properly? Surely you will have to do that to set the rate. I know what you have said about a date, but you will have to have some understanding of the modelling to set the rate.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is a risk in itself, and given the slowness to respond, it is a critical risk. Somebody could litigate against you and saying that you are waiting on the Scottish Government is not a defence under the law.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

Do you not think that there are risks? Down south, the tax will be linked to the completion certificate—people will not be able to get that until they have paid the tax—but that is not the plan here. That seems to be a kind of—

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

What assessment have you made from a risk perspective, particularly from a corporate risk perspective, of the Supreme Court judgment earlier this year? Many organisations have left that with their HR departments, but it must be assessed as a corporate risk, given the potential for litigation. What has your approach been?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

The complexity of the issue and the detail that we agree is required take us back to the timescales that Elaine alluded to earlier. That work has to be done for you to have a level of comfort that the tax can be collected in the manner in which you want.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 November 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.