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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
Clearly, though, you do not need to wait for that. That has been made very clear.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
I am aware, because it is in the public realm via an FOI, that those groups with whom you have consulted in developing this guidance have only鈥擨 am reluctant to characterise the debate in this way鈥攂een on one side of it. In other words, they are groups that give voice to the concerns of trans groups. Do you not find it the very definition of madness only to consult one side and not to consult with women鈥檚 groups鈥攁nd, critically, For Women Scotland, which won the court case鈥攊n developing this guidance?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
What I am referring to, just so you have it for your records in case you want to follow it up, is a letter from For Women Scotland dated 3 March, which references specifically鈥攁nd I quote鈥
鈥渆xtensive engagement with trans organisations鈥
as well as
鈥渁dditional roundtable meetings between Scottish Ministers and the same six trans groups鈥.
There has been only one meeting between For Women Scotland and the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice and of course, none between the First Minister and the group.
I am asking about that, because if you are going to deliver a change that adheres to the law and which has been accepted so that everyone can move forward with clarity and together鈥攂ecause that is what everyone wants; everyone wants people鈥檚 rights to be respected鈥攈ow on earth are you going to do that when you talk to only one group? What is stopping any of you meeting For Women Scotland, given that that case cost the Scottish Government 拢780,000?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
But do you not think that you should consider that? This is all costing the public purse. As I think I have suggested before, if this was your money, I bet you would not be doing this, but this is public money. People are looking at this and going, 鈥淲ell, this is costing the public purse a fortune,鈥 and we are still not obeying the law. It seems quite incredible.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
Actually, what I am suggesting is that none of this would have happened if the Government had been able to take cognisance of balancing rights and not make it about competing rights and, of course, critically, if the Government had not allowed the wholesale roll-out of self-identification to public sector organisations, which was never part of the law, and that has been absolutely confirmed. Therefore, the failure to engage with one entire side of the debate seems utter madness, because this is going to carry on.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
Following on from that鈥擨 am doing a bit of an overview of this parliamentary session鈥攐ne of the issues that we have touched on habitually is that, to understand growth, we need to have the data, but there are missing data sets. The Fiscal Commission also raised that issue. I previously wrote to the OBR about collecting data to allow us to see what the Scottish inflation rate was, which it basically refused to do, which was unfortunate. In relation to the fiscal framework review, are you also looking at gathering additional data鈥攈ave you factored that in at all? If we do not have the data, we do not have sight of the information.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
It is ironic that the restrictions that are placed on the Scottish Government via the fiscal framework are passed on to public sector organisations.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
Before Lesley comes in, I want to say that am pleased to hear that you are meeting the Information Commissioner tomorrow morning. However, that letter was sent on 2 February, which was 36 days ago. You are telling me that you are mindful of the matter, and we all understand the issues around complexity, in fairness, but that is a very evident example鈥攊t is 36 days on from a letter being sent. Given the amount of interest in the issue and how on point the Information Commissioner has been, what on earth is the reason that 36 days have gone by and there is still no reply?
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
What you are telling me is largely the same holding response that I got last time. You are saying, 鈥淲e are doing lots of stuff鈥, but I have no sight of said lots of stuff. As I see it, this is a matter of the rule of law, and I am left to wonder why we are not obeying the rule of law.
Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 10 March 2026
Michelle Thomson
The terms of reference.