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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

I knew that you would enjoy that opportunity. Thank you for that.

Would the other two witnesses like to add anything on that question with some thoughts that might have been triggered by today’s discussion?

I see that Paul Bradley is taking a deep breath.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Resource Spending Review Framework

Meeting date: 1 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you very much for that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good afternoon, secretary of state. We have talked a lot about the specific methodology that was used for the levelling up fund. You mention the use of objective criteria. Despite that, we have ended up in a position in which, as you said, the failure to integrate connectivity data from Scotland has contributed to Orkney, Shetland and the Highlands being placed alongside areas such as the City of London in the category of areas that are least likely to benefit from the fund. How confident are you in the methodology that was adopted?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

What specific agreement have you made with Audit Scotland in that respect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Given that Scotland has a different education system, as you well know, and given what we have seen with transport connectivity, I would not be entirely confident about the methodology for that.

I want to just—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

I sense that this is breaking news, Mr Gove. Not only do you want to take away powers from the Scottish Parliament in some areas that previously resided with the EU but you now want to do so in some areas of education, which is totally and utterly devolved.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Is it the right part? Is it a good outcome when that happens?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

I must admit that that leaves me no clearer. I will say it again: we have ended up in a position in which Orkney, Shetland and the Highlands have been placed alongside the City of London in the category of areas that are least likely to benefit from the fund. How on earth did that happen? I gently suggest that, had you consulted the Scottish Government, it might have been able to inform you that that was a ridiculous outcome. I am asking you to reflect, with the benefit of hindsight, on the methodology that was used to arrive at that position.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

That is a rather heroic attempt to talk the issue away, but let us carry on.

What engagement have you had with Audit Scotland? We have bounced around the idea of governance, which is important, and you have said that there should be scrutiny of the effectiveness of spending. What agreements have you made with Audit Scotland that are in the public domain and that you can share with us today about how you will be accountable to Audit Scotland for your spend in Scotland?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Replacing European Union Structural Funds

Meeting date: 24 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

That will be the case only if people can compare apples with apples, and that is precisely my point about the methodology, which was called so wrongly in relation to transport connectivity. I again make the point that you could have spoken to the Scottish Government in the first place, and it would have pointed that out.

I want to quote from my local council, which is Falkirk Council. On the delays, it notes:

“there was increasing concern over damage to reputations, of the applicants, the Council and the UK Government, such was the lack of engagement by the UK Government”.

You will probably be aware that that local council won some money, although it also comments that it felt that the approach involved

“cherry picking a small number of high-profile projects.”

What will you do specifically to engage effectively, primarily with the Scottish Government, here today in the Scottish Parliament? What are you going to do differently?