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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 1 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Maybe we could go to Lucy.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

You have probably already touched on my final question. How well do the disability-related benefits in Scotland reflect the human rights model of disability that is endorsed by international bodies? Lucy, you have touched on that already, but I am just throwing it out to the panel to see whether you want to expand on that.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Absolutely. We also face digital poverty.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

That would be okay, Lorne, if you would not mind. Does anyone else want to come in on that one?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Another committee is holding evidence sessions on the matter that you are talking about.

I will move on to my second question. I am sorry about this, convener, but I will be quick. Lorne Berkley, CESCR urged a review of the digital-only system for social security. In Scotland, we have a choice of online and paper applications for social security. What is your experience of the main barriers that those systems present to rights realisation? Scotland鈥檚 system is fairer, but we could still make a lot of improvements to make it even fairer.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Thank you. I really appreciate those comments. We could indeed have a full session on social security and poverty, and I hope that we will follow that up.

Does anyone else want to comment before I move on?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Does anyone else want to come in on my first question?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

Good morning. I thank the witnesses for their time this morning. The committee really appreciates it.

My first question is on social security, and I will direct it to Lorne Berkley. The concluding observations highlight concerns about the two-child limit, universal credit delays and benefit caps. I am interested to know how those policies are impacting the people and communities that you work with, Lorne.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Motion to Remove a Member of the Committee

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

I will be brief in my remarks. I certainly accept the decision of the Supreme Court. It is correct that we can agree or disagree with what Maggie Chapman has said or believes. It has been helpful that Maggie Chapman has confirmed that she was not speaking in her capacity as deputy convener of the committee and that she was speaking up on behalf of her constituents. I feel that we have no control over what any member of the committee says in their personal capacity. It would be helpful if Maggie spoke again to clarify the points that were raised by our colleague Paul O鈥橩ane.

I do not consider this to be a matter for the committee to decide on, and I cannot support the motion that Tess White has lodged. I will oppose it, but I will listen to further contributions by other members.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Marie McNair

I certainly agree that we can go further.