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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 16 December 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I want to follow up on what you said just now, Suzi, and on what Kate said, which was that what might be safe and enabling for one child could be considered restraining for another. How do we get it right? How do we ensure that we get it right for both the child that needs something in order to be safe and enabled and for the other child where the same thing is restraint? That might be a difficult question.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Good morning, panel. I would like to ask you quite an open question. In what circumstances would you see it as appropriate for staff to use restraint or seclusion? How would that compare with current practice in Scotland?

Ms Killean, can I come to you first?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You have already answered my second question, which is about the remuneration of the chairs. In response to the convener鈥檚 question, you also said that you are supportive of the enhanced role of the chair and of having one chair throughout the process.

I will ask Mr Forde too, because he also spoke about it. Are you supportive of there being specialist panellists and do you think that they should be paid or remunerated for travel and so on?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You said earlier that specialist panellists would be good for baby and toddler panels鈥攄o you mean every time or, as Mr Bermingham said, as and when needed, albeit that it is important to have that oversight?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

In all cases?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

A fair few folk who responded to the call for views are supportive of the possibility of removing relevant persons from a children鈥檚 hearing, and we have got the ability to do so. You said in your response to the call for views that the bill does not go far enough and that children should be at the centre of the decision-making process regarding whether a relevant person gets to come in. Can you say a bit more about that? Does what I have just said make sense?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Yes; I didna really make much sense. You said that you are supportive of the provisions in the bill relating to the removal of relevant persons from children鈥檚 hearings and that the bill does not go far enough towards centring children鈥檚 views in the decision-making process regarding whether relevant persons should be there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Last week, we heard from Sheriff Mackie that the chair already has the ability to remove a relevant person. Am I hearing correctly that you would like the child鈥檚 advocate to be able to say in advance to the chair that the child has some concerns?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Do any of the other witnesses have comments on that, or on the remaining provisions in the bill relating to the children鈥檚 hearings system that have not been covered?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Jackie Dunbar

You have already answered my second question, which is about the remuneration of the chairs. In response to the convener鈥檚 question, you also said that you are supportive of the enhanced role of the chair and of having one chair throughout the process.

I will ask Mr Forde too, because he also spoke about it. Are you supportive of there being specialist panellists and do you think that they should be paid or remunerated for travel and so on?