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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I agree that it would be good if what you said were to happen, but I have a concern that came out of the meeting that we held with teachers. We could be asking teachers to clock in at 9 o’clock on a Monday morning and not clock out until 5 o’clock on the Friday, and we would be asking them to volunteer that time. Not all teachers are able to do that. They want to be part of those experiences, but their family life or caring responsibilities might prevent them from doing that.

We heard from one teacher that there would be hidden costs. If a class was going to an outdoor centre, at least one additional teacher might be required to go with the class in case, for example, a child with additional support needs had to go home because they were not coping. There would be teachers who would be required to go, and there would be teachers who would be on call, so to speak. All those salaries would need to be paid for, but I do not see those costs in the financial memorandum.

How can we square that circle so that we can go forward with the concept that you are suggesting? I would love to go forward with it, but I am worried about how we will pay for it all.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Languages Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Representatives of speaker communities have expressed concern that the duties that are set out in the bill on relevant public authorities to

“have regard to the desirability”

of taking action in respect of Gaelic language and culture are not strong enough, and that the reference to “desirability” could suggest that taking action to promote, facilitate or support Gaelic might not be desirable. Amendment 34 therefore removes the reference to “desirability”. A duty to “have regard to” taking such action will be clear for public authorities while addressing stakeholder concerns.

Ross Greer’s amendment 33 seeks to achieve the same aim, but it imposes a more complex two-stage test that might be less clear for public authorities that are seeking to comply with the duties. Therefore, I hope that members will support amendment 34 in preference to Mr Greer’s amendment.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I have a couple of questions about the care-experienced young people we spoke to. They told the committee that they often do not manage to keep the same social worker, and that that has a negative impact on their care journeys. What is being done to ensure that as few care-experienced young folk as possible are impacted by that lack of continuity?

Ben, you are smiling at me, so I will go to you first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I just meant that you caught my attention.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Earlier, you spoke about decluttering the landscape. Can you explain what you mean by that? If you had a magic wand, what is the number 1 thing that you would do to declutter the landscape?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

Okay. I will go on to my next question, which I will open up to the witnesses. What further action can be taken at a national level to help the workforce deliver the Promise? Also, as a general question, what would you like to see in the bill to help improve things?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

I am trying to figure out whether there was a difference in the level of the questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

How can we reduce the impact of that? I am sorry; I do not mean to put words in your mouth, but are you saying that social workers are just given a care-experienced person, or is there an in-depth look into the needs of that person and whether the social worker is equipped to deal with them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Qualifications Authority: “Higher History Review 2024”

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

My question is about the independence of the review. Has the SQA report been reviewed by an independent person? If so, who?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

The Promise (Staff Recruitment and Retention)

Meeting date: 4 December 2024

Jackie Dunbar

The care-experienced young folk also told the committee that they feel that there is a lack of support for those who seem to be making good progress. Once they leave care, they are left to it. How can we address that, both in the short term and as the reforms progress?