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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

In your discussions with the Scottish Government, has it ever asked the University of Dundee to look at alternative budget savings rather than going down the redundancy line?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Have you asked the university if it would look at those options?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

—but the course may not continue after those students finish.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I have been listening intently to the discussion. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Knowing what you know now, if you could go back in time and change things, what would you do differently?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Were they able to input, though? I know that you engaged with them, but to me that is slightly different. Engaging with someone is telling them, “We’re going to have a recovery plan.” Asking people for input and ideas on the best way to go forward with a recovery plan is slightly different.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

Not to put words in your mouth, but will some courses have to be dropped, for the reasons that you mentioned?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I totally agree with what Tricia Bey said earlier. I am not sure whether the Scottish Funding Council was in at that point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I have a couple of supplementaries. You said that there was a deficit in July 2024. Did that not cause anyone concern? Was it not raised as a concern?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

I am finding it a bit difficult to understand how, in the previous financial year, there was no difficulty, and then someone chapped on somebody else’s door and said, “Oh, hold on—we might have made a mistake somewhere.”

Where were the checks and balances in all of this? In my former role as a councillor on an audit and risk committee, one of the basic questions that I asked every time was, “Are you convinced that you can put this in place by X date?” If the answer was yes, I could go back later and say, “Why has that not been put in place?” Why were no concerns reported back to the audit and risk committee—as I think that you called it, Ms Bey? Why were they not raised? Why was the audit and risk committee not saying, “Hold on a minute”? You have said that a large amount of savings was not going to be delivered, but what checks and balances were there when someone said, “This is the large amount of savings that we are going to deliver”? Why was someone not reporting back every month to say, “We have made X amount of savings this month, we will make X amount the next month, and this is what we are foreseeing”?

I am finding it difficult to understand that—and my apologies if I am getting it completely wrong.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackie Dunbar

That was just a supplementary, convener. I have other questions, if I can come back in later.